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Kruzing Low · Jul 07, 2006, 07:34 AM // 07:34

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Originally Posted by burai

I think we've all established it's a game. However, isn't it just possible that it's slightly more than that?

It's a game that allows thousands of people to interact with each other, so in some respects it's a method of communication. It allows people to get together and chat about 'stuff' (in the appropriate channel of course), so in some respects it's a place for social gathering. Some people even meet in-game and get married IRL.

thats called letting a game take over your life

burai · Jul 07, 2006, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Originally Posted by Kruzing Low

thats called letting a game take over your life

QFT.

I'm playing WoW pretty much every evening after work, and most of the weekends too, unless the wife frog-marches me out to some 'do' - which is far too often in my opinion. I've tried to suggest to her holding these do's in-game, but she's not buying it

Is it taking over my life? Very nearly. Sad maybe, but true.

But you know what? I'm happy, and oddly enough so is my wife, as she gets the TV when she wants

Winx.ZN · Jul 07, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

Soccer, a game yes? Just a game.
So, Soccer player A dies for whatever reason. He was part of Team Super. One of the best teams. They decide to have a team funeral, apart from the one the family does, on the soccer field in location C. C is actually in the territory of their bitter rivals but alas, it is the one closest to all of the players of the team. During said function, the rivals decide to start kicking soccer balls at them from the top of the stadium. Rivals out of line? It is just a game and they are on their field after all...
I dont know about you guys, but my guild has people from all over the country. I mean, some are in California, some are in Florida etc. I have spent a lot of time getting to know these people, and guess what, I would give a rat's ass if one of them turned up cold the next morning. Having an "online friends" gathering to remember "Zomg Teh Wammo" from our guild would be our little way, with all of us together, to say "Good bye, and may your mending not get shattered in the afterlife."
Was what SN did wrong? Yeah, I would kind of think so. If you saw the video you noticed they went well out of their way to do this and they were the only ones doing it.
Odd place to have it? Yes. As it is a game it would be expected of someone to attempt this (in the soccer example I wouldnt doubt someone would). Would have asked one of the top guilds to lend me 30 minutes of their time and guard the hell out of the service. Properly repay them for their time as well. Asking people to come unarmed to a PvP server is not a smart idea. Would have been funny to me if the attendees were armed and demolished SN's attempt.
How long was the service going to be? If they planned to have a whole bunch of time to have that map all to their lonesomes then they were drinking bleach. Thats a server others play on too, they might like that map too. 30 minutes? Fine. Hours? Dont think so.
SN Action : Bad
Having an ingame memorial service where killing takes place : Thoughtless.
-this is an opinion-

Jiao Yang · Jul 07, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Would all those players have gained loads of levels and experience/items from killing those people at the funeral? Much more than they normally do by killing AI monsters? I dont play WoW

Ganik Thress · Jul 14, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

The video itself was incredibly awesome, hilarious and well-edited with fantastic music.

However, the intentions weren't that great, but as an earlier poster said, an average human will do anything that benefits themselves, in this case was humor, with no consequences at all.

bringer di morte · Jul 14, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

WoW is a game that does not feature instances. Therefore, you are with other players (sometimes over 8 or 16 or 32, like GW's max) for most of the time. Roleplaying is much more influential "over there," because of the reason. Kudos to SN for roleplaying to the max, but at the same time it was terrible they did that. The non-instance aspect is a reason more people build larger bonds with other people, and they tend to become more "obsessed" than GW. Get what I mean?

Edit: In case you don't, I'm saying it's because they lose bonds with friends in real life, and gain bonds with "e-friends." Therefore they go overboard...As shown in that video.

wsmcasey · Jul 14, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by Shred Dread

n RL, if someone you care about dies, would you mind if a group of armed robbers came and attacked the mourners, even if there was no law prohibiting it? I think most of the non-psychopaths here would answer yes.

Well, honestly, if your stupid enough to have the funeral in the land of robbers, phychopaths, and murderers then its your own damn fault!

A little story you may or not have heard before:

A frog and a scorpion are at the bank of a river. The frog says to the scorpion "how do I get across the river, I cant swim?" The scorpion replies "I can swim! Get on my back and Ill take you across the river". The frog is reluctant and says "Okay, but you promise not to sting me?". The scorpion promises that he will not do that and they proceed across the river with the frog on the scorpions back. Half way across the river the scorpion stops and promptly stings the frog. As the frog slowly dies, he asks the scorpion "Why did you sting me! You promised you wouldnt!". The Scorpion replies, I'm sorry, but its in my nature to do so.

Its in a PvP players nature to kill stuff. If your stupid enough to come to the land of PvP with no weapons, then expect to die! The guild did nothing wrong really, they pay a monthly fee to play on a pvp server. This is not the place for an unarmed funeral to be held.

The more I think about it, I actually think the girl that died would probably get a good laugh out of it, since the PvP server was her favorite place to play games.

shadowfell · Jul 15, 2006, 09:56 AM // 09:56

Absolutely disrespectful, and it seems planned. Some people are born without class, most people die without ever knowing what it really means.

TheMadKingGeorge · Jul 15, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by EverBlue

Haha.
That's awesome.
I'd have done it, too.

awsome if i had WoW and that happend id be leading the charge lmfao

megalomaniac_mutant · Jul 15, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Ok, yes, maybe it IS disrespectful, but i think it's totally sick to make an ingame funeral in the first place....i mean...how nerdish can it get...?

Calan The Powerful · Jul 15, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

we are not talking boput the dead girl anymore

shadowfell · Jul 15, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by megalomaniac_mutant

Ok, yes, maybe it IS disrespectful, but i think it's totally sick to make an ingame funeral in the first place....i mean...how nerdish can it get...?

In some situations people grieve/celebrate a life of someone in a location that had brought enjoyment to the deceased, and yes, this could be a game, a particular tavern, a courtyard.. really anywhere.

People form close online relationships with guild mates in a lot of cases, friendly bonds. I have known several people online for several years, people that I am myself with, and vice versa. Suddenly, one of them died a few months ago, and it totally broke my heart, hurt, etc. Because regardless, that is a chunk missing from the routine of your life. You don't have to be able to touch someone physically, for them to have an impact upon you.

I am very pleased that a lot of you found so much enjoyment in the video, but to crit the holder and other mourners of the deceased for remembering a person in-game, is just not acceptable.

Celab · Jul 15, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I want the scatman song.

oh yeh, another reason why i dont like WoW, role players on PvP servers.

tear · Jul 17, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

If a real-life friend of mine died and I held a funeral for them in-game (hypothetically of course, because that's pretty goddamn retarded and honestly wouldn't say much for the person who'd died), and then someone crashed it, I would probably laugh about it and it'd probably lighten my mourning a bit temporarily. No, seriously, you don't think that's funny? It's hilarious!

It's a game that should always be seen only as fun, and never anything more - what that guild did was a bright reminder of that. It shouldn't even be seen as disrespectful to the one who died - it's a way to remember them through something they obviously enjoyed and never meant to be taken seriously. Do you think she wouldn't have smiled on such a thing?

Also, I would've killed some mourners.

Xenrath · Jul 17, 2006, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Originally Posted by Shred Dread

Many of the people on this thread have been talking about the choice of the mourners to have the funeral on a PvP server as if this somehow justifies the actions of Serenity Now.

I think that's been misread. It looks to me most are saying it was a mistake to have it on a PvP server - that's not the same as justifying what those stupid kids did. What they're saying is if it was held on a PvE server this unfortunateness could have been avoided. People become worse than animals when they have anonymity and no risk of personal injury for behaving badly towards someone.

As for the "it's just a game" - drop it. Online games comprise of real life people behind the character. These real life people talk to each other. They form groups. Communities. They become friends, they may even care about each other. I have friends online too, as do many gamers e.g. in Germany (via MSN) one guy I've never met "in real life" but known for years. I'd surely be upset if I found out he had died or something.

If you can't see that, then perhaps it's time to re-evaluate your concepts of human friendships and so forth. A person doesn't cease to be a person just because you can't physically see them in front of you.

fenix · Jul 17, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

The situation is pretty funny, and made more lighthearted because of the song. Similar to the TV show Happy Tree Friends, it plays stupid music and sounds make the extreme violence funny. When you think about it, all those mourners got pwned pretty bad :P

If it was my funeral ingame and someone did that, I'd be pissed at first, but get over it quickly and appreciate the humour.

Gustav Gloomp · Jul 17, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

lol a guild transferred to our server on horde side just to destroy serenity now. all these sn fanboy guilds were created and were spamming the towns and all the channels about how cool serenity now is. it was funny at first then everyone went crazy about ppl rolling on illidan just to congratulate/flame serenity now.
aussies ftw.

Former Ruling · Jul 17, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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During said function, the rivals decide to start kicking soccer balls at them from the top of the stadium. Rivals out of line? It is just a game and they are on their field after all...

Difference is..The soccer team was out of line..and SN wasn't.

To Change your example to being Correct, Team A had a player die, so they decide that in their Next Match they'll not play, and just stand there moarning the loss of their player. Team B whom they are facing decides to score goals on them while they are not reacting - and ends up winning the match.

Is Team B at fault? Heck No. Its the middle of an important match - of course they are going to win easy if they can.

SN didn't sneak up on the funeral in an empty soccer field and threw balls at them from the stands...They were in a PvP world where you rewarded for killing people..If the people don't fight back...it just makes it that much easier.

Liu · Jul 17, 2006, 10:39 PM // 22:39

To add, there were also no official rules. As far as the game was concerned, the people were just standing there unarmed and they got PvPed. I bet the game doesn't think it wasn't a nice thing to do. Neither should anyone else.

PS- Kudos to them for doing the typical ting.

temp · Jul 17, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

when i first saw this i cried with laughter...lambs to the slaughter

and when i see it again i laugh even harder...

prawned tbh, wp serenity what u expect on a pvp server :P

10/10